martha: disappointing and donald rumsfeld's words. mac thornberry is the chairman of the house armed services committee. he joins us this morning. great to have you here today. >> thank you. martha: what was your reaction by the comments from the president? >> he thought like he could defend his record by tom or bullying governor romney. usually when someone uses that tactic, whether it is on the playground or in politics, they are trying to cover something up. what he was covering up there with the fact that our navy has gone down to such low levels. it is just not -- with the navy at that level, we cannot defend the country as well as protect the peace. you know, he seemed to say that navy ships were obsolete as horses and the units. that is obviously not true. martha: there was another comment became prior to that by governor romney. it did not get as much attention, but it raises an interesting point. let's listen to that. i want to get your thoughts on it. >> we make decisions within the military that will confront challenges we